回答五味的「还有谁信耶稣﹕除了beechan那样盲从盲信的基督教徒，..」
回答五味的「还有谁信耶稣﹕除了beechan那样盲从盲信的基督教徒，..」（http://www.douban.com/group/topic/77386440/ ）
这篇文章，又是从胥述之「《圣经》的起源与上帝的谬误」（http://tieba.baidu.com/p/830103373?pn=3 ）抄来的。所以，我仍然怀疑五味就是胥述之。无论如何，这里有几个重点，逐个回答：——
（一）仍然说，有关耶稣的资料甚少。这问题已经在「回答五味的「耶稣的生平基督教徒编写的吗？」」（http://www.douban.com/group/topic/77886904/）回答了。
（二）在这篇里，五味特质疑两件事——就是：童贞受孕和复活。耶稣复活的问题，和五味因为读不通圣经，所以觉得四福音互相矛盾，都在回答五味的「耶稣真的复活了吗﹕beechan为代表的愚昧基督教徒 耶稣真的复活了吗？」（http://www.douban.com/group/topic/78486995/ ）解释了。
（三）所以在这里，集中在讨论耶稣是马利亚童贞女所生。
（1）五味说：「对此，撒都该人在古卷《Sanhedrin》中解释道：“R.Shimeon ben Azzai论及耶稣时说：‘我在耶路撒冷城中找到一份关于耶稣家谱的记载，此人乃淫妇所生的私生子。’”」然后他继续说：「我们从马太的“极力警告别人勿受其惑”中可以看出，当时耶酥即私生子的说法具有多么广泛的市场。」
回答：——
这只是证明当时已经有耶稣是童贞女所生一说，只是不是人人都接受。离开吗？不奇怪，因为童贞女生子是神迹。古今中外的神或超自然事情，都会被人质疑。但是，有人质疑，就等於假的？？？什么逻辑？？？
（2）五味同样的逻辑说：「在早期教会初创之时，就有一派自称为艾比扬教派（Ebioites）的人出现，他们专门反对教会引用以赛亚书七章14节童女生子之事，他们认为该节中的‘童女’一词应译为‘一个年轻的女人’。」
回答：——
有不同意见，等於是假的？？？今天无论是美国大选，是台湾大选，竞选的人都有很多不同意见。谁错？谁对？？五味只选择那些合他心意的意见，显出他的偏见！
（3）五味说：「“处子受孕”的神话并非基督徒的独创，几乎所有的古代民族都有类似的传说……」
回答：——
其他宗教都有相似的讲法。我同意。但是，我们的结论是否说，都错？其中有一个或多个都是对的？如何决定？
（4）其实五味还没有提出很多其他常听见的质疑理由。我现在转录两篇文章，回答了很多有关童贞女生子的问题。但是，因为是英语，所以我只选择部分翻译。
Isn't the virgin birth of Jesus Christ mythological and scientifically impossible?耶稣童贞受孕，是神话和不科学？ （http://www.christiananswers.net/q-aiia/virginbirth.html）
Critic's Claim #1 The idea of a virgin birth is SCIENTIFICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.科学上不可能
Really? Where have you been for the past 21 years? Ever since in vitro fertilization and embryonic transfer came on the scene in 1978 (not to mention artificial insemination), it is quite possible for a woman who has never experienced sexual intercourse to give birth. Of course, the Bible makes it clear that it was Almighty God, not some high-paid gynecologist, who worked the details of Jesus' Divine-Human conception, i.e. “And the angel answered and said unto [Mary], The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called the Son of God.” —Luke 1:35, KJV. Sound miraculous? 听似神迹？Of course. 当然是。 But these days, who would deny that miracles occur? 今天谁能否认神迹是可能的？And such a 'small' one for the God who created the entire universe!
Critic's Claim #2 The idea of a virgin birth is MYTHOLOGICALLY DERIVED.神话
Author Patrick Campbell (The Mythical Jesus) and Episcopal Bishop J.S. Spong are two of a number of individuals who have suggested that "…the virgin birth account [is a]…clearly recognized mythological element in our faith tradition whose purpose was not to describe a literal event but to capture the transcendent dimensions of God in the earthbound words and concepts of first-century human beings." Both men, however, overlook a simple fact有一件简单的事实？: No respectable Jew would have ever condescended to buy into a Greek/Babylonian mythological base for an account dealing with the birth of his/her Messiah. 犹太人不会俯就去相信一个希腊/巴比伦的神话。
Critic's Claim #3 The idea of a virgin birth is HISTORICALLY UNSUPPORTED历史上没有证据
The Apostles' Creed, written in the 4th century; the Nicene Creed, adopted at the Council of Nicea in 325 A.D.; the Athanasian Creed, written about 450 A.D.; the Chalcedon Definition, adopted at the Council of Chalcedon in 451 A.D.; and the Small Catechism of Martin Luther of 1529 A.D. are only a few of the historic creeds that recognize the veracity of the Virgin Birth of Jesus. 使徒信经、尼西亚信经等等……都有谈到。Only in more modern times have Bible critics begun to try to cast doubt on a doctrinal truth that the Church has long since historically endorsed.只有今天的圣经批判学家才怀疑。
Critic's Claim #4 The idea of a virgin birth is BIBLICALLY UNCONVINCING不使人信服
Some critics cite the fact that the Apostle Paul is silent on the subject of the Virgin Birth, and the fact that Mary's virginity is never mentioned in the Gospel According to John, as evidence that Jesus was never born of a virgin.有人表示，使徒保罗没有提到。 But the argument from silence, always a rather weak tactic in但是，从寂静的说法（argument from silence），始终是一个比较薄弱的策略 making a case, is particularly weak here due to the fact that both Paul and John were alive and quite familiar with the Gospel accounts written byMatthew and Dr. Luke (a physician!)—and yet never either questioned or refuted it. 而且保罗非常熟悉四福音。
Critic's Claim #5 The idea of a virgin birth is STATISTICALLY UNWARRANTED统计上无根据
If you really want to put truth up for a vote (and who does?), 真理不是靠投票的。let's get all of the statistics out in the open. While it is true that one very famous poll taken in 1965 (and still being frequently cited today) of 7,441 Protestant clergy showed that many mainline denominational ministers were not convinced of the truthfulness of the Virgin Birth, a more recent Harris poll of a randomly selected group of 1,011 adults found that 91% of U.S. Christians do believe in the Virgin Birth. All of which goes to show that when it comes to determining spiritual truth, our authority ought to be the Bible (Isaiah 7:14, Matthew 1:25), not men—including clergy!
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Demonstration That the Virgin Birth is Not a Fable 证明童贞受孕不是传说 （http://www.themoorings.org/apologetics/VirginBirth/evid.html ）
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